Apres Ski Is Not A Place

We bounce from apre-ski jokes and caffeine confessions to a candid breakdown of the LA social media trial, surveillance anxieties, and why clear rules matter. Then we cry happy tears over Winter Games storylines, celebrate athlete autonomy, answer a heartfelt only-child question, and wrap it all up with some Silver Dollar City nostalgia. Topics this week include:

• meta trial compared to big tobacco
• algorithms built to hold attention and drive profit
• surveillance lines crossed by recording glasses
• privacy norms, data limits and realistic risks
• olympic highs, first medals and comeback arcs
• gen z athletes, body autonomy and mental health
• practical pros and cons of raising an only child
• socialising strategies and parent bandwidth
• silver dollar city rides, snacks and memories
• community shoutouts and where to find us

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Transcript

Olympic Outfit Bit And Apre-Ski

SPEAKER_02 0:04

Matt ordered himself an entire Olympic fit.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

I actually have owned every piece of this for years.

SPEAKER_02 0:11

Oh, just kidding. Matt always is repping the US of A.

SPEAKER_01 0:17

Stands on the USA business.

SPEAKER_02 0:19

I take it all back. I'm a bad listener and I'm not observant.

SPEAKER_01 0:23

This is actually a a USA volleyball sweatshirt. I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 0:27

That's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

Could potentially be from the last Olympic Games.

SPEAKER_02 0:30

That makes sense. Yeah. I thought I was really doing something, but I guess not. How are you?

SPEAKER_01 0:35

I'm great. I'm really doing something. I'm we've got these socks. They actually say appreci. I shouldn't show my feet.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

On our walk this morning, Matt showed me his socks just like that. He was like, look, they say appreci. And he was very excited about them. And I told him this week in a comment section, I don't know what the video was really about. It was about how a lot of companies are using skiing to market winterware. And everybody's like, who's going skiing? Who can afford going skiing? Like that was the bit that most people aren't going.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Yeah. I would argue actually the people who can afford nice winterware probably are the one only ones who can afford to go skiing.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

There was a comment that said, and why is it always apre ski? Why is it never anywhere else or something like that? The comments underneath were just it's not a place, stupid.

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Apre means after.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

That's all I think about when you say Apre ski now.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

That's fair. I feel like that's the part of skiing you would love. Absolutely. Just vibing at fire, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 1:45

I think I I don't know if I would have very much fun skiing. I don't know if it's for me. I I'm down to try.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:51

I don't really like being cold.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

There is a good amount of being cold.

SPEAKER_02 1:54

I like water skiing.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:56

Like I think snow skiing being fun for me would require me having all the right equipment.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

I mean, I will say you definitely want the right equipment, snow skiing.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

Because I feel like in the right clothes, you're comfortable.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

That's why people it's honestly, unless it's really, really cold or there's a ton of wind, you get hot. Like you are being active. So you'll you'll warm up.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

Yeah.

Cold Weather, Gear, And Drinks Chat

SPEAKER_02 2:18

What are you drinking today? I haven't even opened my drink yet.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

You're drinking a bloom, actually.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

Oh, plug.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_02 2:25

I ran up to the grocery store before we got to recording this to get everybody in our household cold drinks. And I asked Matt what he wanted, and he said a bloom. And that I don't know that I'd ever seen you drink one, so it surprised me.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Yeah. They're good.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

I like the Apple one.

SPEAKER_01 2:40

Now that I'm feeling better, I'm back on my caffeine bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

So I got a cosmic stardust for the first time in a really long time. This used to be my absolute favorite.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

I drank them all the time. And then Matt pointed out to me that it was grape.

SPEAKER_01 2:54

I didn't was it me?

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Yeah, it was you.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Okay. It's not a very grape, grapey grape flavor.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

And so once you know though, it is and I like grape, but something about it, like when it was Cosmec Stardust, every time I drink it, it was like whimsical. And now when I drink it, I'm just like, ah, grape.

The Social Media Trial And Big Tobacco Parallel

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Well, it's grapey grape is the the purple ghost that's yeah, that's also really good. That tastes exactly like grape juice, which is unsettling, but good. For Chronically Online this week, I wanted to see if you knew about the social media trial going on right now.

SPEAKER_03 3:26

No, I don't I don't.

SPEAKER_01 3:27

Some people are saying it could be the big tobacco moment of social media.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Big tobacco?

SPEAKER_01 3:32

Yeah. So it's a civil trial in LA that they're like, hey, you made Meta Facebook, well, like you made this to be addictive and you shouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_02 3:43

What's the big tobacco?

SPEAKER_01 3:45

Well, like big tobacco got regulated. Yeah, and like got really sued back in I don't remember when. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 3:56

I know they got really regulated. I didn't know about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:58

Your product's addictive and you knew about it. And you didn't really tell people.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Got it, got it, got it.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

This a lot of people are saying this could be social media's moment.

SPEAKER_02 4:07

That'd be good.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

And like I I think it's gonna be even easier to prosecute from the early days of the platforms. There's a bajillion people all being like, hey, this is addictive. This is how we make users stay on longer. Like, there's an unbelievable amount of data out there, I'm sure, that is just people talking openly about how do we keep people on the platform longer? How do we make it stickier? Like all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

So well, and that's how the whole algorithm works is the more you hold people on the platform and the more you hold people's attention, the more people will see the content that you can.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

And the more money you make from it. And the more money value and everything else. So I think it's gonna be pretty slam dunk, but a lot of people are thinking it'll open the floodgates for more and more suits. And so um it could be that moment where they have to actually face the music of what they've been doing for 15 years, something like that.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

So, do you is the end goal there to regulate the industry?

SPEAKER_01 5:03

I think it's to hold them accountable. And so, like, they either make changes or they have to take some responsibility for making these platforms so addictive, and how are we gonna handle it going forward? And they need to be a part of the solution and probably account for damages along the way and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 5:23

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 5:24

So we'll see. I think it's early days of the trial. Zuck did go to court, he testified and he wore his meta glasses there, and the judge was pissed.

SPEAKER_03 5:34

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 5:34

And was like, if you recorded anything with those and you don't destroy it, I will hold you in contempt. So that's fun.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 5:41

Why would you don't wear recording glasses to court? Okay, don't do it. It's a bad idea.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

It's like, why did he do that?

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Because I don't know. He doesn't seem to be the most like socially adept.

SPEAKER_02 5:51

I don't understand the metaglasses.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

I don't either.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

It's like spy glasses, but well, it's kind of it reminds me of the Super Bowl commercial with the ring, where they're like, we're gonna be able to find your pets. We can access Oh, that's terrifying. Did you see that ad?

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Uh I think I did. I've heard people talk about it and they're like, this is exactly what we don't want.

SPEAKER_02 6:13

And the metaglasses remind me of that too. And I am the biggest advocate for capturing and documenting and taking pictures and doing all kinds of things. I don't necessarily like it when it borders surveillance.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

I think we've kind of lost um. Like I think we surrendered our privacy a long time ago.

SPEAKER_03 6:33

For sure.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

And if you look at like the UK, you can't go anywhere without being on CCTV. But I think what we need now is more regulation.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

CCTV.

Meta Glasses, Surveillance, And Privacy Norms

SPEAKER_01 6:44

Closed circuit TV. But like you're recorded everywhere in the use in the UK. Basically, there are cameras everywhere that the government can look at, but they have to have reasons to look and they have to like it's much more regulated there as opposed to the way that they can utilize it.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

Where it's just like Well, and we don't know who has what and who's right.

SPEAKER_01 7:05

There's very little transparency on what law enforcement agencies have access to and what they should have access to. And half the time it has to go through courts before we find out, like, oh, they have this technology that we didn't really know about and aren't so sure about the privacy.

SPEAKER_02 7:22

Well, and I don't I don't know how I feel about it. I to some extent, as long as I don't know, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Well, and there's a lot of people like that, and I just think that the ship has sailed on a bunch of that stuff, and so and to a degree, I think they should be able to, if they have very good suspicion of a crime, use all the tools and all the data available to them to pursue people committing crime.

SPEAKER_04 7:46

Right.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

I I don't know that I hate the deterrent aspect. If you think about it, that's been the whole concept behind Santa Claus. He sees you when you're sleeping, he sees when you're awake, and he's just like, naughty list, good list. I mean, he's never respectable.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

So the surveillance states kind of like that.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Yeah, exactly. Like that. Have you ever been bothered by like how weird that is?

SPEAKER_02 8:08

What?

SPEAKER_01 8:09

That Santa canonically spies on you all the time?

SPEAKER_02 8:12

See, I feel similarly about Santa Claus as I do about people saying that they can listen in on the Alexa.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Well, but that's real.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

They don't have time to go through all that damn footage or all of that uh audio that they're taking in. I'm not anybody of interest.

SPEAKER_01 8:30

There's there's an argument to be made that it's almost impossible to store that amount of data.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

People act like it's recorded. Now they do record snippets, and what those snippets are is questionable. And I think they do utilize it for advertising algorithms and how they scrub that data, and with AI, it's probably even more of a risk of how much they'll understand and know because they will have more tools to be able to look through that stuff. All of that's a risk, but the idea that it is constantly recording is an amount of data that is unfathomable because there's these devices everywhere all the time.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

And there's people that and that's that's kind of how I feel about Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

You're questioning the omnipotence of Santa Claus, like he couldn't actually possibly watch everyone at one time.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Or you're screwed at Christmas.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Oh, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Yeah, I already am.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

Yeah, you gotta you can't believe that's why I haven't gotten gifts the last couple years.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Yeah, he's just amazing.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

I love folklore though.

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Folklore? Like stories, not the album.

SPEAKER_03 9:29

Not the album.

SPEAKER_02 9:31

The album.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Taylor Swift folklore.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Oh, no, not the album. No, I think I like actual folklore. I think a lot of people like that album. I think it was a popular one. I probably know songs from it. I don't doubt it.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

I'm on my peak derailing shit.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

I don't feel like you're talking to me. I feel like you're talking around me. And it's I I I don't know how to engage with it. Like I keep up, I keep saying things thinking we're gonna converse about it. And then I I don't know. It is not singular.

SPEAKER_01 10:02

It's like you're talking to somebody with ADHD, it's crazy. I I think there's a reason people with ADHD enjoy the show.

Santa, Alexa, And Data Reality Check

SPEAKER_02 10:10

People enjoy you. I people really do enjoy you. That is, I mean, and I get a sentient squirrel. I obviously understand it. I married you, but I won't lie that sometimes when I get like an abundance of feedback about how great Matt is, I'm like, yay, Matt.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

That does grind your gears occasionally.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

I think that you should be celebrated, and I think that you're very likable and lovable, and you're funny, and you're smart, and you're all these wonderful things. Just sometimes I'm like, oh, he's shining so bright. I wish I could shine bright with him.

SPEAKER_01 10:47

I wish I could be this guy who fails to use social media when he should. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

Are you gonna get back on the social media?

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to. I just, you know, I it's been a weird month and a half. And I just I was so consistent and so good for a while that I had to break my own heart again. But yeah, I'll get back on it.

unknown 11:11

I will. I will.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

If you're that's what I think of when somebody says back on it.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

Get back on it. That's hysterical. What what a pull. Speaking of horny, what'd you think of Wuthering Heights?

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Uh, I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

I didn't like it either.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

I was very bored.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

I struggle with it, and I have yet to see somebody make a good argument on why I should like it, because I feel like it had one trick. It could shock you one way, and they did it 40 times. And one, that makes it a lot less shocking as you go along.

SPEAKER_02 11:45

Yeah. And two, it just There were so many things that I thought were gonna come back around that I was like, oh, that's really interesting how they're putting it in at the beginning, and you know, it's gonna come full circle, and nothing ever came full circle.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

Well, it was like an art house movie that had nothing to say. And I know they took the source material and kind of botched it. Well, uh, they romanticized it. I think like the characters are darker and more complicated, and they really simplified them and then made it and then made them white. Well, they also did that. Aside from those issues of the actual, like, why did we make these people white and these people non-white? There wasn't enough story to push it. And so there was all these symbols that didn't mean anything. It was a movie that looked deep and I think had no depth. When's that gonna come out? The visuals are beautiful. That's the thing, is I respect that people were like, it was so visually interesting and so like the costumes were unbelievable, the sets were really well done, the acting was really well done. I think it's a statement, like it's a testament to Jacob Alordy being engaging on screen that you care at all that those people are getting together.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

Yeah.

Folklore, Derailing, And ADHD Banter

SPEAKER_01 12:56

I'm like I agree. Good on Margot Robbie and Jacob Alordi for you being I don't really like these people, but I do kind of want to see them together because I don't think the story did it.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

No, I agree. And so the storytelling really lacked for me. I have never wanted to walk out of a theater out of boredom and I was bored. Yeah, you did look at me like an hour 15 in, or I was really struggling to stay engaged with it because I just didn't care.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

I I kept thinking more had to be coming. And I'm not somebody that likes a movie shorter usually. I want like if I'm enjoying it, I want as much of it as you'll give to me. And this is a movie that I'm like 40 minutes, you could drop 40 minutes out of this, and then maybe the visuals and some of the shock factor could carry the story, but without a story to pull along that stuff, it was just like scene, dead space.

SPEAKER_03 13:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

And eventually the visuals just kind of were there.

SPEAKER_02 13:57

A lot of people loved it.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Well, and I love that for them.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Yeah. And if you so many people that love it have been like, well, I wouldn't watch it again. And I'm like, what does that mean to you?

SPEAKER_02 14:07

If you saw it and loved it, let us know. If you saw it and didn't like it, let us know.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

You want to fight about it, hit me up.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Fight? I don't want to fight. Oh, hit you up? Okay, that's fine. You can fight with Matt about it.

SPEAKER_01 14:17

Should we talk about the triumph of the human spirit? AK the winter games.

SPEAKER_02 14:22

Yeah, sure. I'm sad.

SPEAKER_01 14:25

You're sad. Oh, because it's ending?

SPEAKER_02 14:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:27

Got it.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

I love the Olympics. I've cried so much this week. I let the kids stay up and watch the figure skating finals.

SPEAKER_01 14:37

Women's overall.

SPEAKER_02 14:39

G was just so concerned because everybody skated. I cried. Skated, I cried.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

It wasn't just US skaters.

SPEAKER_02 14:47

No, every single skater. I not everyone, but any we watched the primetime, so everybody had a story alongside with their performance. And I was weeping.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

You really were. You were crying so much. I was like, what is happening?

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Yeah, and I watched the women's ski half pipe weeping because the youngest US athlete competitor this year is a women's skiing half pipe competitor. And she's 15 years old, and she absolutely nailed her performance. I didn't watch till the end. I don't know if she made the final or not. I didn't uh end up seeing that because we got busy making dinner. But watching her go down on the half pipe and watching her parents watch, oh, I've huh, I was not well.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Having kids does add a little complexity to it.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

I've always been like this.

Olympics Emotions And Standout Stories

SPEAKER_01 15:39

I know you've cried every since I've known you watching the Olympics.

unknown 15:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

But it's been you kind of cry over different things over time.

SPEAKER_02 15:49

Yeah. Well, what were your peak things over the last couple days?

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Well, you were talking about the the women's overall figure skating. They won their first medal since 2006. First medal at all. No. First gold since 2006. First medal overall.

SPEAKER_02 16:08

First gold since 2002, I thought.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Yes. I I said it right the first way.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

You never said 2002.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

Well, I hadn't gotten there yet. First.

SPEAKER_02 16:16

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 16:17

First gold since 2006. First medal.

SPEAKER_03 16:21

That's wrong.

unknown 16:22

First.

SPEAKER_01 16:24

I'm losing my mind.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

You know what? I don't think it really matters. It was the first US women's figure skating individual gold since 2002.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

Yeah. And they'd medaled in six. It was a silver. 20 years. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:39

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

It is crazy because especially in the 90s, I think we kind of dominated.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

Well, I even remember the early 2000s. Yeah. I remember so little of growing up, but I remember watching the Olympics. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:50

I mean, speaking of five Olympics ago, Alana Myers Taylor, she's 41 years old. Individual Bob Sled win, uh, gold. And she's been to five Olympics, never gotten a gold.

SPEAKER_02 17:02

Has she meddled before?

SPEAKER_01 17:03

Yeah. She's meddled like four or five times. Okay. So she's had a lot of medals, but this is her first gold. Uh, she thought about retiring last time and came back. And she has two special needs boys. Bunch of cool stuff. Like really cool. Yeah, exactly. She's gonna cry. Yeah. Anyway. So, and I think oldest gold medal Olympian.

SPEAKER_03 17:20

Oh, that's 41.

SPEAKER_01 17:21

So, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

That's a remote.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

I'm surprised you missed that one. She's gonna go look this up and just ball.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Immediately, I'm gonna go up to the house and cry over that. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

You did see Michaela Schiffer, though.

SPEAKER_02 17:33

I did, and I uh that story really in her interview after was really heart-wrenching. She is an alpine skier, which I don't know anything about.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

And one of the scary ones where you go down really fast, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Well, and she competes in multiple events.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

A lot of them do. They do like super G, which I don't really know the difference. Like, is it just a little bit fat? I don't really know. I don't know. She's giant slalom.

SPEAKER_02 17:56

She competed in her first Olympics when she was 18 years old, won a gold, came back four years later, won a gold and a silver, I think.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Did she?

SPEAKER_02 18:04

I believe, yes. Then came back the Olympics after that, which was the last Olympics, and it was two years since she'd lost her dad, and she just absolutely tanked, I guess. Had a horrible performance at the Olympics four years ago. Then this year came back, and it was supposed to be kind of her.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

Well, I think she's been kind of a big deal in like US.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Like she's been like she's the most she should be she's the most decorated skier of all time. She has the most somethings cups. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Yeah, like I think she kind of wins a lot in the sport outside of the Olympics.

SPEAKER_02 18:40

The last Olympics, she didn't meddle, did really poorly, and then maybe got injured at the last, got injured somewhere in there. Yeah, I think she had a pretty gnarly injury, I think.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

I mean, when you go super fast down a hill.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Maybe I may have made that up entirely.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

A lot of knees and legs.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

But then this Olympics, this was her third event to compete in, and everybody was expecting her to come back, and this to be like her victory lap of really showing that she can after the poor performance four years ago. This Olympics, her first two events, she didn't meddle in. Like, I don't even know if she made the final, like she got like 12th or something. I none of this is right. You're gonna have to look it up if you want to know the real things. But what I do know is correct is it was her last event and she won gold. And that's why it was a really big because they were uh everybody was kind of like, oh man, she came back and is having another like bad experience.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

The men got their first sprint cross-country skiing medal and they got a silver. That's normally a sport where we just get absolutely dominated. Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 19:47

Just like Norwegians and Swedes and We also women's hockey won gold, which it seems like it usually comes down to Canada and the United States.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

That's a US-Canada dominated, especially the women's side. Yeah, the men's side, there's a little more competition. The US and Canada. I think the issue with the US and Canada is that they meet before the finals a lot of times. Then like only one can make because I think last time we met in the semis, and only one of us, somebody dominated the front.

SPEAKER_02 20:19

I wonder.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Uh Canada. I think it's Canada.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. Well, I know that a lot of the competitors are even on the Canadian team, on the US team, on any of the teams are NCAA collegiate hockey players. A lot of the women's.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

Oh. Oh, the women's side. Got it, got it, got it. I don't know about the men's. There's a lot of pros.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

That well, and there are there are pros, W uh Yeah, W W H O.

SPEAKER_01 20:43

W N H O.

Gen Z, Bodies, And Athlete Autonomy

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Yeah. I still don't think that's right. Anyway, women's professional. Yeah, the Women's Professional Hockey League, there are a lot of women from that as well. But like they're playing with players from their teams. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I don't know. Anyway, and they're like against they're they play year-round with these people, but then they're against them at the Olympics.

SPEAKER_01 21:06

Yeah, there's like the Canadians are on different teams normally, and then they're on the same team for the Olympics.

SPEAKER_02 21:12

I know that I watched one game where there were like three Ohio State hot women's hockey players, but they were two of them were on one team and one was on the other. And it was it was interesting. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

I think it's even more so in the men's just because they're like all pros. Yeah. And so they have however many teams. Like it's more than NCAA teams. Right. Or it's less than NCAA, so they're more than a right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Yeah. What else?

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Alyssa Liu.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I was talking about, though. The gold women's figure skating golden.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

I just think that she's really cool. I brought it back up because I didn't talk about her to win the individual and how she came back from the break was just really cool because I think growing up, watching the Olympics, watching these women who were so powerful and graceful and skilled, they were all. So skinny. It was really cool, which Alyssa Liu also looks healthy that she's an athlete, like you know. But it was really cool to hear her come out and say, I'm gonna eat what I want to eat, I'm gonna train how I want to train, and I'm gonna listen to my body, and you can take it or leave it.

SPEAKER_01 22:19

I think she's 20.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

20. And I was just speaking to some friends about how I feel like Gen Z is so cool in this regard that they're really taking it by the reins and not putting up with the bullshit when it comes to how we tell people they need to show up in order to compete.

SPEAKER_01 22:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Oh, like more of the body side of things, or just yeah, when it comes to bodies and how we're going to treat ourselves and how we're going to prioritize our mental health. And there are conversations to be had there about taking it too far, X, Y, Z, whatever. But to have an example like her, who is so clearly in her element, dressed in her style, you know, and just so loud about being who she is confidently and securely while also celebrating all the people around her. Oh, it was just good to watch. I loved it.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

You know, Hunter Hess, the guy that Trump called a loser.

unknown 23:25

No.

SPEAKER_01 23:25

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he was like, hey, I love the US and I love representing the US, but I don't want to represent everything that's in it. And it was pretty much that offensive as far as a phrase.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

Yeah, I watched it.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

Yeah, it was super mild. Uh, and then he was like, This guy's a loser. And uh he apparently stomped his first run today.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_01 23:45

Like, just qual think it was qualifying, but like he stomped it and then he flashed an L up for being called a loser.

Bad Dad Mean Mom And Grocery Chaos

SPEAKER_02 23:53

So but honestly, I feel like that's such a compliment. Oh to be called a loser by Donald Trump is a great resume builder. I I think that means you're on the right side of things, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

It can't be a huge issue. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Bad dad, mean mom.

SPEAKER_01 24:08

Bad dad, mean mom. I think I should be the bad, the bad parent this week. We've had a real run of changing.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

We're not bad parents. No, probably bad. Bad rhymes with dad. That's it.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

It really does. Mean doesn't rhyme with mom, but it alliterates.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:22

Or assonance. Alliteration? I think alliteration is consonants specifically. But mean mom is consonants. I'm a dumbass.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

I'm so confused. I'm like, what's happening?

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Assinance is one uh vowels. So it'd be like awesome antelope.

SPEAKER_03 24:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

Fun fact. Assinance should have been word of the week. Could have parlayed it right in there. Damn. Okay. Missed opportunity. Anyway. Anyway, bad dad. I've not been crushing it in the food game. Uh, I don't think we have any groceries in our house right now.

SPEAKER_02 24:52

Having somebody with ADHD do that is an interesting experience. Like, I've tried to keep a grocery list and added the grocery list for you, and I'll send Matt to the store with a grocery list, and I'd say 50-50 on whether I'm gonna get the things on the list or not. Not the amount of things on the list. I mean 50-50 that you get everything that I've written on the list.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

Everything? Yeah, and that's intermisc. Some of it is because I have places I like to buy things and I didn't go to that place. Like I like to buy Nutella at Sam's. It's like half price in terms of value.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

He'll get home and I'll be like, hey, where's the bread? Oh, I didn't get any bread. Wasn't that the top on the list? Well, yeah, I forgot.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Yeah. Again, you're a neurodivergent person getting your food where it's like, I like a specific type of bread, and they didn't have the specific type of bread, so I bought no bread. But it's been a rough week. There's been a lot of mac and cheese and leftovers for dinner as opposed to anything being prepped and made. So if you're in the same boat, I see you, and we're gonna get better together.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Everybody has eaten. They have eaten, no one's starving, but everybody's getting a full meal with the nutritional things that they need. Yes, it's it's just simple, and there's nothing wrong with that.

SPEAKER_01 26:05

Yeah, it's a functional eating process right now.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

There's not a lot of there's not a lot of variety, but that's okay. That is okay.

The Romaine Era And Food Routines

SPEAKER_01 26:13

When I live by myself, I ate the same meal every day for years, basically.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Wait, let's see if I can get it.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 26:22

Three eggs.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Yeah, something like that. Three.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Two sausage.

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

One head of romaine lettuce.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

That's lunch, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:31

Right. I thought we were moving to lunch. I thought that breakfast was.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

You hadn't delineated where you were going. So it sounded like I was also eating a head of romaine lettuce. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

So, so sorry.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Which that's a crazy move.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

Three eggs scrambled. Oh, yeah. Two sausage breakfast done. Complete. That's breakfast. I'm not doing beverages because I don't know what you were drinking at that time. I was almost exclusive for drinking water. Okay. Lunch, one head head, my gosh, one head of romaine lettuce, shredded chicken.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

What saw what did you do? Ran? Caesar. Caesar. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

I had an oil-based Caesar dressing, still my favorite. There's oil-based. I think Ken's Ken's steakhouse has a oil-based Caesar. And so it's not cream-based. Very good.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

And then dinner, salmon.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Salmon.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

And did you have anything with the salmon?

unknown 27:19

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

That's what I don't remember.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

I didn't know if you did it on a bed of rice or if you didn't.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

I would do surely. I well, I say surely. There's a real chance I just ate a piece of salmon.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

A hunk of salmon. And that I don't, it's amazing that you weren't like just blowing away in the wind. Because none of that is real food. Like it's all it's all real food.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

That's healthy as shit for me.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Good clarification.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

A lot of variety, but there's a lot of good things in that.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Those are all whole foods. I'm not saying that you're eating bad things. And I don't really believe in good food, bad food. But there was not, it wasn't well rounded. Your breakfast was okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Well, was it not well rounded? We had vegetables involved, which for me is a huge feat.

SPEAKER_02 28:04

Salmon is say if there's one vegetable and you had it at lunch.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Yeah. But it was a a lot of it. You had no carb or starch. Well, I was limiting those for fitness. I didn't I wouldn't have salmon 100%. I'm trying to think of what I would eat if I didn't eat salmon for dinner.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

Chicken. More shredded chicken. I guarantee it. You made shredded chicken. No, exactly. I was like, you got another head of romaine lettuce. And I remember that you would take your romaine lettuce to work.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

I'd chop it, yeah. You would chop it at your, I don't know about it at your desk. I'm sure it was in my desk. I didn't go somewhere else to do it.

SPEAKER_02 28:41

So you chopped a head of romaine lettuce at your desk in the engineering. I kept a knife.

Word Of The Week: Diphthong And Cockalane

SPEAKER_01 28:46

I kept a knife in the drawer. Like a big knife. I kept a big knife in the drawer that I would cut ahead of romaine lettuce every single day. I forgot about that. That's crazy. I was a lunatic. Oh, what a structured life that was. It was an engineering office. I bet half the people didn't even think twice about it. They were also dysfunctional human beings.

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Um I mean, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 29:11

I forgot I kept a knife there. That's that's some crazy work. I had a bowl and a knife that I kept there, and I would bring the head of romaine in.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Well, I was explaining this to somebody else because I I they said Matt cooks, right? And I said, Well, Matt, Matt will cook and you can cook. You're a really good cook at that.

SPEAKER_01 29:29

He has the ability. And he even has the ability to like try new things.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Yeah. I said, but if it was just Matt, he'd eat the same thing every day. Every day. And they're like, what do you mean? I said, well, for three years when he lived in St. Louis, and I told, I told exactly what I just said of these are the things. And they said, What do you mean by a head of romaine lettuce? I'm like, I mean he literally took a head of romaine lettuce to work with him. Like he's like, lunch like a rabbit.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Not like a rabbit. I cut it up. Yep. I kept I kept the dressing and the bowl and the knife at work. That's a good system. Somebody out there is gonna be like, that's genius, and they're gonna start doing that.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:09

And you're my people.

SPEAKER_03 30:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

Um Do you have a word of the week? Yeah, I do have a word of the week. It's not assonance, but man, that would have been a great one.

SPEAKER_02 30:18

What is ass assonance is when it's uh vowels. Eeyore's ears.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

What makes an ass out of you?

SPEAKER_02 30:26

Does Ee or start with an E?

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

Ee's ears, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Let's double check to make sure. This isn't the word of the week, but uh, we're gonna double check assonance in poetry. The repetition of a sound of a vowel or diphthong. Diphthong.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

Word of the week.

SPEAKER_01 30:42

That might be the word of the week. That's you know what? Diphthong. Diphthang? Diph dip thang. Look at look at the phonetic spelling of this. The phonetic spelling is dip thang, which I'm not saying the a correctly, but dip thing. Dip thang. A sound formed by the combination of two vowels and a single syllable. So coin. O-I.

SPEAKER_02 31:08

Coin.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Two vowels makes a symbol. Two vowels makes a single sound.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

You could really get some double triple entendres with dip thang.

SPEAKER_01 31:17

Dip thang. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

I need to get some rapper somewhere on that.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Mm-hmm.

unknown 31:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:23

A poet.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Yeah, it's a compound vowel character or multiple. Had no idea. Had no idea. I'll save my my actual word of the week for next week.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

Oh, okay. Should we trip triple the week? No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 31:35

It's not triple word of the week.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

It's a word of the week.

SPEAKER_02 31:38

Word of the week.

Voicemail: Fears About Raising An Only Child

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Triple word of the week. Anyway. Cockalane. Cockalane is the word of the week. Cockalane. Cockalane. An incoherent or rambling story.

SPEAKER_02 31:50

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

Or like a satire.

SPEAKER_02 31:52

Okay, I kind of like that. Yeah. I was trying to be Aquanimous over here.

SPEAKER_01 31:56

Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

I like that your flex and equanimous every single week. It's fun.

SPEAKER_02 32:02

It's that and Akimbo.

SPEAKER_01 32:04

Akimbo.

SPEAKER_02 32:05

That's really stuck with me as well.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

It's kind of impressive. Like, that's not one that really felt like it would be a Akimbo makes all the sense in the world. It's a fun word. It's a round word, which Akimbo. Yeah. Doesn't it feel like a round word? Am I crazy? Some words feel like sharp.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Akimbo. Akimbo.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

It has an A at the beginning, an O at the end.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

I don't know what shape it is to me. Yeah, I hear what you're saying.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Yeah. Just makes me think of a ball.

SPEAKER_02 32:36

Yeah, okay. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Even though it's something flailing around.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

We're referencing a Kimbalane. Cockalane. A kimbo we did on the last project. Cockalane? Cockalane.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

That story was quite.

SPEAKER_01 32:47

What a cockalane.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

What a cockalane.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

Tell me a cockalane. Well, this this podcast is basically a couple of things. This podcast is basically a collection of cockalanes.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

We could have named the podcast that.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

Cockalane. Cockalane with Matt and Joe.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

It's going south quickly. Okay. We have a voicemail. We have emails.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

Yeah, we've talked enough. It's time to let you talk. All right. Let's voicemail first.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Sure.

unknown 33:16

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 33:17

Hey Joe and Matt. I just listened to this week's podcast and I liked hearing you touch a little bit about only children. I know Joe has mentioned a bit on TikTok about being her mom's only child and her feelings around that. Um, my question is my husband and I are 28 and we've been together for nine years. We've been child-free by choice and thought that we would stay that way forever. But over the last year, it's like my biological clock came knocking, and now I don't really know where I stand. But I do know that if we decided to have a child in our 30s, that we really would only have one. I feel very strongly about that because I just don't know that I would be a great parent to multiple children. Maybe that sounds crazy, but I'm the youngest of 10 and my husband is an only child, so we have very different perspectives on both of those experiences. But I just know, you know, that I would parent best when I can have the bandwidth. But I'm scared that I'm going to mess up my kid by not giving them any siblings. Anyways, love the pod. We'd just love to hear you chat about this a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 34:22

I'm not messed up because of lack of siblings. I'm messed up for a whole wide array of reasons.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

I don't think the question is.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

No, I don't either.

SPEAKER_01 34:34

But No, that's just I've laughed because that's how you started. You're like, I'm not fucked up because I have no siblings. I'm fucked up because of my own things.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Well, and I think that every single person, every person has their problems. Having siblings doesn't guarantee that they're gonna have good relationships and that there's gonna be good family dynamics, etc. I don't think there is anything wrong with only children. I just don't. I think that there are things with only children that you have to be really aware of the same way that if you have three children, you need to be really aware of.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

Like it's well, just for example, like if you have an only child, you really probably should focus on socializing and making sure you're going places or have friends with like that. That kid is being around other kids a lot, otherwise, they won't understand those dynamics as well or as quickly.

SPEAKER_02 35:26

To me, I'm not worried about that. Doesn't worry me as much because I feel like you learn a lot of that at school. The thing, like, I my my dear friend Erin's also an only child, and her and I talk a lot about how lonely because our parents would be busy and we didn't have anybody to play with, and so we grew up around a lot of adults in the outside of school hours, outside of activity hours time. I think that's something that can be remedied. Yeah, I don't think that that is necessarily a difficult thing, like they're just things to be mindful of.

Email: Silver Dollar City Memories

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Well, yeah, uh having an awareness of that as a parent sets you up for a lot more success. If in no other thing that you can talk to your kid about it and make sure like you're checking in on them for those reasons. But what you're saying with having multiple though, flip side of the coin, you need to make sure that you're having intentional time with each of those kids so that you have a strong individual relationship as opposed to like me and the kids as a group and not having and so it's just different things you have to consider, but um you've got your own opinions on the individual.

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Well, the the part that I have a lot of opinions on that I often feel when I listen to people talk about being an only child, and they're like, I loved it, I still love it in my 30s, it's great. And I think the part I've really struggled with is I am my mom's only, and my mom deals with a lot of big health issues. That means I am on my own in navigating and experiencing that. And having siblings doesn't guarantee that you're not, it just doesn't. Um, but it does feel lonely and it has been difficult. Uh, it's not, I don't know. Again, having siblings isn't the guaranteed fix for that.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

I was gonna say, like, that alone is not a reason to have another kid. Like, if you don't feel prepared to have another kid and you're like, well, what if something happens to me? They should also have someone to it's it's kind of a side feature. If you're very sure that you just want one child and that feels the most available to you, yeah, don't plan on having other kids. It's better to know yourself, it's better to have that confidence and an understanding of who you are. What I would say is when you have another kid, there is an element of they can play with each other and that they can entertain each other, and it takes some of the load of being a parent. That sounds bad.

SPEAKER_02 37:43

I was about to say the way you're talking about it right now, I do not like it.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

You can kick it off to your other kid and they can raise your own.

SPEAKER_02 37:49

Well, and they'll entertain each other and they just stay busy and they don't need you.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

No, but there is an element of they have someone else there to engage with and that they want to play with. And so um it's not the there's a lot of focus, and there's a lot, there's a there's a real intensity to having an only. Like I remember that from when we just had one, is it's it's a real focus, and so that focus has positives and negatives to it, I guess is the thought that I was trying to get to. What a cockalane! It wasn't even a story, it was just a a wandering thought.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

But yeah, I uh I think one's great though. I think you sound like somebody who knows what you want and are confident in who you are and who you would be as a parent. And if you think you know you want one, I think that you're somebody that should have one. Yeah, genuinely.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

We are big on like we we know people that don't want to get married because they know who they are in a relationship and that that doesn't necessarily mesh with what they want or what they need or uh all that stuff, or they have experiences with marriage that are negative and so they are avoiding like it's better to know who you are and follow that path than to try and fit to a path that feels more right because of what other people have to share.

SPEAKER_02 39:10

I agree. Can you catch an email really quick and then we're gonna hop off?

SPEAKER_01 39:14

All right, we're gonna get an email and then we're gonna let you guys go. So as though you can't just turn this thing off whenever you want. Um silent follower here. I grew up going to Silver Dollar City, so I'd love to hear anything and everything about Silver Dollar City from you guys. Favorite rides, favorite snacks, favorite memories. Maybe that's not gonna be a short.

SPEAKER_02 39:32

Favorite memories, fire in the hole, first roller coaster, and I was really worried because they retired Fire in the Hole and or closed like the original Fire in the Hole and announced that they were gonna rebuild it elsewhere. And I was so worried because it's just so nostalgic, and it was really great, and it still was true to the spirit of the original to the spirit of the original. Yes, I agree, and I look forward to taking the kids, and maybe that'll be one of their first roller coasters.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:02

We'll see. No, it was uh I know what your favorite memory. I think I know what you're going to say. Your favorite Silver Dollar City memory is.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

I'll just say it because uh the thing is my family went a lot. We lived like 30 minutes away, we had season passes, we would go all the time. Like we would go a bunch of times, and so I have like I went with friends, we went with like we went for school.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

My favorite, before I say my favorite drink, I'm gonna say is the lemonade. Oh the lemonade. Like the true fresh squeeze lemonade.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Frozen? Yeah, oh yeah, that's where it's at.

SPEAKER_02 40:34

Uh your favorite memory, uh, wildfire.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

Oh, when we went that's when we went for school. But it was just our school or a couple schools, and the whole park was closed outside of that. And then my family planned to come pick me and some of my friends up. So when the bus left, there was even fewer people. And so we just rode, it was when Wildfire, which is one of the first big roller coasters, like real roller coasters, they put in, went in and we rode it around and around. Like I think we rode it like eight times in a row. I had harness bruises from riding it that many times, which is probably not healthy.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

And I also huge memory for me is riding Thunderation backwards. And this is the last year of Thunderation, they're retiring it in 2023.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

They retired backwards a few years ago.

SPEAKER_02 41:21

Yeah, they retired it going backwards, but the whole it's getting comp taken down.

SPEAKER_01 41:25

Wow, that's crazy because it's such a cool roller coaster.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

Yeah. Uh Marvel Caverns, I guess, is taking over the space because they're gonna explore the caves down there further. And that's like under Thunderation, I guess. Interesting. I didn't read far enough to actually understand the geography of it. Well, all of that's on top of caves.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

I guess so. It's just like Thunderation really rattles around. I feel like it's must be some good rocks under there because the idea that it could fall into a sinkhole seems very possible.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

I wildfire is such a cool roller coaster because of how you can see the whole lake when you're up there too.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:03

I like that one. No, anyway, yeah, big Silver Dollar City fans.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

A finger snack?

unknown 42:09

Ah.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

The thing is, I think when we went this past summer is the first time I've ever had food at Silver Dollar City.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

Really? Yeah. We used to get kettle corn. Kettle corn is a big thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

We take kettle corn home. I remember that. Like my dad would get a big bag, but I don't really My family went to the show a lot after. Yeah, as a kid, I didn't love kettle corn. Oh, and so I don't really remember that growing up. And my parents would bring food. We didn't really eat there that I remember.

SPEAKER_01 42:36

Oh, my family would eat there for sure.

SPEAKER_02 42:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

Funnel cakes, big player. Uh I don't make kettle corn.

SPEAKER_02 42:43

Maybe we ate there. You know how fuzzy I am. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 42:46

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We went there a lot. And so there's also that bakery that has the cinnamon bread behind.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

I'm saying this to you. If you didn't eat there, you're not gonna remember this stuff.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

I I know where you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 42:58

I like seeing the candy made.

SPEAKER_02 43:00

Oh, I love the glass blowing.

SPEAKER_01 43:02

Oh, that is cool.

SPEAKER_02 43:03

I like to watch them work with the glass.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

The artisans love that. That stuff. We didn't explain what Silver Dollar City is. Um it's an amusement park close to where we grew up, very um 1800 late 1800s. 1800s. Like the late 1800s, post-Civil War.

SPEAKER_02 43:21

And there's Dollywood in uh Severeville.

SPEAKER_01 43:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

And that used to be Silver Dollar City, and it still owned, it's like partnered with Dolly Pardon, owns 51%, and Silver Dollar City, I think, still owns part of that because she anyway. That's what they're very similar parks. If you've ever been to Dollywood, same kind of vibe.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

Yeah. Yep. It is a um, it's in Branson, Missouri.

Sign-Off And Where To Find Us

SPEAKER_02 43:48

It's very fun. And it's cool. On that note, we have more emails. We'll get to those next week. Rate, review, subscribe, all of the things that we ask every week.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

Yeah, you can catch us on social media, uh, Matt, Doug. Overbee, I think. At Joe Johnson Overbee.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

I it blows my mind that anybody listening to this and made it this far uh would have people have told us that they only listen to the podcast, and I'm like, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 44:13

It is awesome, but you're cool. I forget that people listen to the podcast at all. So I appreciate you guys very much.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

Happy you're here. Bye.

unknown 44:21

Bye.