Oversharing with the Overbys
Welcome to Oversharing with The Overbys! In this podcast series, Jo and Matt Overby cover a wide variety of topics—from parenting lessons, life stories, to personal relationships. Take an inside look on the lives of Jo and Matt as they navigate the adventures of adulthood and overshare online.
Oversharing with the Overbys
Split Squats, Screen Time, and Raising Tiny Humans
Ever wonder how to conquer the burn of Bulgarian split squats or why canceling a subscription service feels like a breath of fresh air? We get it, and that's why we're here to laugh, wince, and navigate the intricacies of daily life with you. And while we can't promise to make parenting any easier, we can certainly offer a shared space for commiseration and some hearty chuckles along the way.
But wait, there's more! We're not just about planks and parenting; we dive into Greg's Reads of the Week. Join us as we unravel these threads with a mix of curiosity, humor, and an occasional side trip to embarrassing college stories. Whether you're looking for a few coping strategies beyond meditation or just need a reminder that everyone experiences those 'oops' moments, we're here to chat, share, and laugh through it all. Plug in and join the conversation – we promise you'll leave feeling like part of the family.
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Welcome to Oversharing with Overvies. I'm Joe.
Speaker 2:And I'm Matt.
Speaker 1:And each week you can tune in to hear us respond to your voicemails, go in depth on our lives as content creators and hopefully leave you feeling even better than we found you.
Speaker 2:With that being said, let's get to oversharing.
Speaker 1:My body hurts so badly. When are you going to get used?
Speaker 2:to working.
Speaker 1:My no. Like I have hurt Don't get me wrong Like I have hurt and I complain and I have lots to say. But today is a different level.
Speaker 2:It was like me, like two weeks ago. Yes, yeah, that was brutal, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like during my workout, I was doing my very first two moves and as I was doing them, I already could feel the pain that was going to be the next 48 hours.
Speaker 2:Okay, like that's not ideal.
Speaker 1:No, it's not good. And I told her I was like I don't think I can do this and she said you can do it, you actually can do it.
Speaker 2:And you're going to do it for the next hour.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I didn't mean that I couldn't do the whole workout Like the move that I was doing.
Speaker 3:I was like.
Speaker 1:I don't think I can do any more of these.
Speaker 2:Handstand push-ups yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, correct. I've actually gotten really good at those the last couple of months.
Speaker 2:They really they tear up those triceps, though no, I was doing.
Speaker 1:Bulgarian split squats Ah, a classic and holy cannoli. Then we did these things where I was in a plank. But then you like rock back into your feet and bend your knees, your hands stay and then you go back out and that was one of the easiest. Looking Like when I watched it I wasn't like, oh, this is going to be easy. But as I was watching I was like, oh, this is one of those that like I feel bad with how hard it is because it looks so effortless.
Speaker 2:I mean, it absolutely just annihilated my You're not going to do it in front of people and like blow their minds. No, I'm going to be like, oh okay, I got it, and then, and then it's really hard.
Speaker 1:Well, I think it was especially hard after doing split squats.
Speaker 2:That checks out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, anyway, I really like I hurt really bad, just not even hurt. It's that like your muscles feel excessively tired. Yeah, I feel that feeling all over right now.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's good. You should probably take a bath tonight. Yeah, that's what saved my life two weeks ago.
Speaker 1:I mean it's not. I've been trying to drink a lot of water because I'm like oh no oh no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did that for one day and then I got very dehydrated the next day and then I was in a lot of pain.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then finally I recovered. But yeah, what's on there?
Speaker 4:I did not work out today.
Speaker 2:I reorganized my phone home screen and it's not good. It's now like using someone else's phone. I will take any tips on reorganizing your phone.
Speaker 1:Do you like the way it? What? Okay, I guess, give me more input. Why did you do this then?
Speaker 2:I'm trying to be more organized. Okay, I'm trying to structure my life more.
Speaker 1:Okay, love it.
Speaker 2:I literally got an app called structured. This is not sponsored. I don't even know if it's any good yet, but I did subscribe for a year, so I hope it is.
Speaker 1:He said, I went for it.
Speaker 2:It was like $3 for a month or $10 for a year.
Speaker 4:Oh, okay, and I was like okay.
Speaker 2:You can swing the $10 and it's really a bold, like you're going to forget about the $3 and you're going to pay $36 for the first year, I subscribed to something for the year yesterday. Oh.
Speaker 1:I know I haven't done this one. I finally canceled my Fabletics.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's big.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I skipped this month. I have a credit like that I didn't use from a few months ago that I need to use, and then I went ahead and canceled it because I've had. Fabletics. How long have I had Fabletics?
Speaker 2:The decade.
Speaker 1:It's not that long, but a long time, but I skip a lot of months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you forget to skip some Every once in a while.
Speaker 1:I'll forget to skip a month. And it's gotten expensive. I think when I started on their subscription, I think it was $30 a month Uh-huh, I was like I don't know six years ago and I think now it's like 50 or $60 a month. Yeah, Anyway, I finally canceled that.
Speaker 2:If Rocket Money wants to sponsor this podcast. I think they just talk about, like, canceling subscriptions you don't use. Go ahead, yeah, hit us up, because we clearly don't do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like that would be good.
Speaker 2:We are the exact people you want subscribing to your service.
Speaker 1:But can I get to what I did? No, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, go for it.
Speaker 1:I subscribed. I went over to one of our neighbor's house for a little happy hour the other night and I got to her house and she has these floor to ceiling bookshelves in their living room and all the books were the exact same size and they had this little emblem on them. And I was like, why are these books that I've read but they don't look like the ones that I've seen? And she said, oh, it's book of the month. And I said ma'am, ma'am, what do you mean? It's book of the month. And she said you've never heard a book of the month. And then very kindly explained to me there's this service where they curate like you. Each month they like put six new releases out that you can get a hardback copy of for your subscription cost. So I think I went ahead and paid for the whole year up front and so I think that made it $14 a month, Okay, and you get a hardback copy of a new book each month and you get to pick like they curate six each month.
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 1:And then you get to pick which one you want and they're like thrillers, romance, whatever fantasy, etc. Etc.
Speaker 2:I was like that's kind of a good deal on 12 random hardcover books, but if you get to pick, that's different. No, you get to pick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you can skip months, like if there's not a book that interests you, you can skip. And you can also like I think you can add, even if you don't want one of the books from that month. I'm not like, and you can do audio books, like there are options. But I thought it was a killer deal. Yeah, because hardback books are expensive. Books in general are expensive now.
Speaker 2:Paper man.
Speaker 1:Like I feel like I used to get a book for like eight or $9. And now it's like a minimum, like a $15 books, a good deal. Generally you're in the $20 to $30 range.
Speaker 2:Sure, that's a lot, I'm not going to get three ads. Oh, okay, I was just kidding.
Speaker 3:No, do you want me to stop talking?
Speaker 1:Matt has a direction he's wanting to go, and it's not you guys telling me about the exciting thing that I ordered Hold on.
Speaker 2:This is an open forum. This is a podcast for both of us. What are you looking at? I was just staring up into space.
Speaker 1:I was looking at my books and how they're not all the same size and how excited I am to get a book every month, Like she had hundreds of them because she's been doing it for like I don't know. She said eight or nine years.
Speaker 2:Got it. I mean, most books aren't going to be the same size, so it's kind of out of character for it to be.
Speaker 1:I don't mean the same width, I mean they're all the exact same dimension.
Speaker 2:But they're the same height, right yeah?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the part like that you see from the bookshelf Right.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 1:Well, you also see the width, I guess, from the bookshelf, if it's like fat or skinny.
Speaker 2:Sure, I don't know that anyone complains that much about that, do they? I don't, I don't think so it's like a weird complaint.
Speaker 1:I don't think people probably complain about I don't know.
Speaker 2:People complain about anything. So I mean, let's just be clear about that.
Speaker 1:Anyway, you go ahead. You put us back on the track you want to be on.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I outlined one episode for the first time in like six months and now we're just getting harassed for it.
Speaker 1:Wait, no, you're not. You're being celebrated for it Celebrated.
Speaker 2:This is how you celebrate people, I'm not upset. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:No, Caroline and I. If you want to go listen to Middle Ground, the episode of, well, I guess it won't come out until it'll come out on Monday. I don't know. I think maybe it won't come out for another week.
Speaker 2:They're every other week now it's coming out after this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's coming out after this episode, but when her and I filmed today, we talked about how the best thing you can do is assume people mean the best, which is the opposite of what Matt does. Matt just assumes I am always insulting him.
Speaker 2:Yep, my internalized dialogue is like they're doing this to hurt you. It's not good. Not that I have an internal dialogue, but I just react to everything as though it's meant passive, aggressively.
Speaker 1:Everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not good. Again, therapy, I'm working on it. We've been TikTok dancing still. We have I think we have another one on the itinerary. Yeah, we do, that's cool.
Speaker 1:I think we're going to start doing that weekly and then I, kind of Matt and I, have been really mapping out content to take everything a little more seriously now that the kids Like it's a job. Well, no, it's just like now that the kids are a little bit older, I feel like we have a little bit more gas in the tank to get back to work and we've had the privilege of kind of rotting a little bit while the kids have been like I don't know, little kids are a lot.
Speaker 2:And they yeah as much as people like really drill schedule. It takes a lot to run a schedule, especially when you work from home for sure. They don't understand work from home. They're like, hey dad, you're at the house, let's, let's play. And you're like, push me on the swing. I'm trying to work. And they're like, yeah, but you're home, so your life should really be about me. I can't really conceptualize work, but I can conceptualize you pushing me on the swing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, big time. And so I feel like we've been really trying to kind of get some structure back. And one of those things that we decided Matt and I like spent a whole day and we went back through all of our old content of like, when we initially kind of grew on Tik Tok and we used to have a much like bigger engagement. We were growing a lot more rapidly and we looked back and we're like what were we doing then that we're not doing now? And it turns out that we were just like fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were like happy and carefree.
Speaker 1:And I don't know that we're not like. I still feel like we have those qualities, but we have been so wrapped up in some some heavy stuff the last couple of years, just life and having kids and evolving, and so anyway, we're going to dance once a week because we always have a lot of fun doing that personally and I feel like people enjoy watching us struggle and it takes us like an hour and a half to learn them, so it's good for fitness as well. Yes.
Speaker 2:So you know, that's always a plus.
Speaker 1:I'm also bringing back the posing guides.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I asked for it's 2020 again people.
Speaker 1:I asked for recommendations or like requests for what people wanted to see posing guides for on my story this weekend, and I got a lot of responses, and so I'm going to get started on filming those leading into spring break time and all of that.
Speaker 5:Sure.
Speaker 1:So kind of fun. So those will both be coming weekly out front of the day is still happening. If there's anything that you guys ever think of that you would like to see as a series, joe learns to host will still be going on. I have G's birthday this summer and I have a couple of baby showers that I'm going to be planning for that. I'll be doing videos for that. But yeah, if there's any series you guys want to see, we really like to hear about that.
Speaker 2:You're slowly acquiring art for your wall here in the room. I'm building a piece of art for it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I tore apart an old hard drive that died, that we lost a bunch of data from which was sad and unrecoverable.
Speaker 1:Sent it off to like specialists and they're like yeah, man. No, this is like dead dead. I lost G's entire first year.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Thankfully I had copies of quite a bit of it, but there were some things that I'll never get back. That was a bummer. That is sad.
Speaker 2:Anyway, I took that hard drive apart and turned it into a piece of art.
Speaker 1:Yeah, question mark. No, no question mark Period. I turned it into a piece of art Period.
Speaker 2:Period Period. Oh God, so um what?
Speaker 3:Okay I just had a fire out there, see what happens, um, no, yeah.
Speaker 2:So making a hard drive framed piece of art, maybe even videoing it, so you might even be able to see how it happened. That's, you know, let's not promise anything too too heavy. You know, like actually making actual expectations of Matt.
Speaker 1:Don't have those, yeah.
Speaker 2:Let's not do that. Um crumble under pressure. So you reading anything interesting watching.
Speaker 1:Am I reading anything interesting? I just finished them. Well, I didn't finish. I decided to skip out on the last three books of it. I have been reading a mafia romance series and I think I got to the end of like what I want to read because I started reading the next one and the character that it's about really doesn't interest me, and so I looked up the two after it to see like who they were about to see if that interests me, and the reviews really went downhill after the first five, so I'm not even going to go there. No, first six I read the first six.
Speaker 2:So many.
Speaker 1:I know it really is and they went very quickly, like I was reading one a day and then I didn't. I got to the seventh one and I didn't read at all yesterday because I wasn't that interested in picking it up. And then I have been picking up a lot of books that are available on Spotify premium to listen to as audio books on Kindle Unlimited, because then I can listen, like when I'm driving or when I'm doing chores around the house or whatever, and then I can swap back to reading without paying extra money to do that. And so anyway, I was like, well, maybe I'll get into it. And I listened to like the first two chapters and I was like, no, I'm done with that series, I am DNFing that and we are moving on. So I think I'm going to hit Mistborn, which I've been circling my way back around to doing Mistborn for a while because I did Crescent City three, which is a big fantasy world, and I could never do back to back fantasy because I get the magic systems conflated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you watched like an hour and a half of television last night on your own.
Speaker 1:I did not watch that much.
Speaker 2:Well, okay, you turned it on while you were doing something on your phone.
Speaker 1:I turned it on and then the whole time you were at the grocery store, I paused it and I watched it live. And then when you got back no, just before you got back I had resumed. I watched one episode.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was like, so you watched like 25 minutes of television.
Speaker 1:I'm really disappointed because it's not done very well.
Speaker 2:You're watching the Avatar on Netflix series.
Speaker 1:Have you seen anything about it?
Speaker 2:No, no, okay, that's not really my world.
Speaker 1:I'm curious what people are saying about it, because I was watching and I don't even dislike the casting that they did, but I just felt like it wasn't done super well.
Speaker 2:It can't be great if you're the one critiquing production value. I know Because you are not that person. No, I'm not, You're not like that's not very good CGI, but last night you were like this CGI is bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Which means it has to be jarring.
Speaker 1:It's such a popular like. It is such a popular nostalgic show and, I think, making a live action version of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've got a live action of an animated show.
Speaker 1:Right, it could be so good, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:Anyway, it's tricky too to do in real life like cartoon stuff.
Speaker 1:If they can do the Witcher, they can do Avatar.
Speaker 2:That's true, true.
Speaker 1:Like that's kind of my point.
Speaker 2:I do think that costs like a bajillion dollars to make.
Speaker 1:I know but this didn't need to. It doesn't have as many effects as like they're in the ocean.
Speaker 3:Not.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, I don't know Like the effects I was talking about that were so bad. Anyway, yeah, I was a little disappointed. I may go back and watch it if I look up online and people are saying good things, but even the acting like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Just wasn't, you weren't sold.
Speaker 1:No, and I'm not. I am not a critic.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I am not a critic and so if something like same thing with books, I'm like if I say it's bad, it's bad, yeah, like it's true, it's just true, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I started watching True Detective. That started like eight weeks ago.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's good. Cool yeah, Season four. There was like suspense scary.
Speaker 1:We watched the one that was filmed in Northwest Arkansas.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, we did. I forgot you watched that. Yeah, I feel like it's not your show.
Speaker 1:I don't again.
Speaker 2:I don't know how many times I can say this.
Speaker 1:I sound so pretentious and I really don't mean it that way. I just don't like watching TV that much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you're better than TV, god.
Speaker 1:Matt, I hear you.
Speaker 2:You know, that's not what I mean. I still clear. It got it.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I don't, it's just never been my thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shortform video has corrupted your brain.
Speaker 1:You think?
Speaker 2:Your attention span is so short now for a video that it has to be 15 seconds or less.
Speaker 1:I don't even feel like I like short, like I don't, I just no, it's true, it's true. I like to be outside.
Speaker 2:Reading a book.
Speaker 1:I like to touch my plants.
Speaker 2:While reading a book. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that. You have any main mom moments from the week?
Speaker 1:Oh, I should have thought about this prior. Do you have a good one?
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know if it's a good one, but I have had a. I've not been co-regulating or self-regulating great this last week. So, yeah, yeah, our two and a half year old and I have been emotionally struggling together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you guys are about the same level, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been learning on either becoming an inner child or healing our inner child depends on who you're talking about. So, yeah, I just have not been crushing it. When the tantrums and the meltdowns happen, it's been hard to de-escalate and not elevate, which is kind of important because they aren't intentionally doing much. I mean, anytime they meltdown it's like, hey, I need something that I don't have or that I would like to have. It's not like I'm going to ruin your day.
Speaker 1:Watch this. Yeah, I don't know that I have anything crazy. I was thinking of the way that ours vaccine schedule landed it made it to where he had to have six shots at one doctor's appointment and I felt a little bad about that, but I don't know that that's necessarily mean mom.
Speaker 2:He's handling six shots like a champ, though. Yeah, he did really well yeah he straight up got six shots last time and he's been pretty good. The time or two that G had I mean I think four is the most she ever got, but the few times that she did that she had some rough weeks.
Speaker 1:She wanted to snuggle for a week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which you loved.
Speaker 1:I loved it yeah.
Speaker 2:You were like actually.
Speaker 1:I dropped everything and just snuggled for a week and I don't regret. I would like them to always just snuggle with me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, double vax can never be too safe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I don't have anything other than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we're resettling this week, hopefully. Hopefully, dad can get his anxiety back on the tracks and stop matching his toddler's energy when she melts down.
Speaker 1:You don't match her energy. It's not like, she's like, it's like and you're like yeah, that would be terrible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1:And you did a really good job yesterday. They were both melting down. Yesterday you were internally, she was externally, and that said Joe and I said, yeah, he's like I think we need to switch places, yeah we've had a few of those.
Speaker 2:There's been a couple of bedtimes been brutal. There's been a few nights where we've had two hour bedtimes and that's not good for me.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:After about an hour I'm like, hey, this is hurting me now. This has been really delightful for 30 minutes. And then 30 minutes of like this isn't great, but we'll get through it. And then after an hour I'm like I'm not enjoying this anymore and you really need to go to sleep because it's wildly late. So, yeah, room for improvement. Oh, room for improvement.
Speaker 1:Are we going to Reads of the Week.
Speaker 2:We could do Reads of the Week sure.
Speaker 1:I don't know what your order is. Go ahead, you take me down the correct path.
Speaker 2:I like to outline an episode and then she doesn't look at it at all. She rolls off the dome. That's your forte.
Speaker 1:I'm really good at roll. I don't have to. I'm happy to make an outline, but that is something I've realized with you and Caroline is you guys both want to roll off the dome.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah.
Speaker 3:A little bit.
Speaker 2:I would like to not have to outline things, but I do. I do better when I do 100%.
Speaker 1:It makes sense yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just not even like I'm not reading it verbatim, it's more like, hey, here's some things you could talk about this week Do you think this is what most big podcasts have like producers for their producer?
Speaker 1:Like they have people who do research and put things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely Okay, I think that way, like if they're talking about a story.
Speaker 2:Everybody's on the same page if they're talking about stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I think that's usually what people do, but that makes sense.
Speaker 1:That's not our style here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, we just let her rip 50% of the time, for sure, for sure. So, anyway, we can do Greg's Reads of the Week I want to have you.
Speaker 1:Oh, you pulled them. Yeah, I pulled them for you. I love that.
Speaker 2:I'm doing your whole job this week.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's not really your job. You still have the voicemails, so we'll see if we got any. Greg's Reads of the Week. Greg is your dad. Yes, he sends us a lot of articles.
Speaker 1:We love it, we love him, we love articles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sometimes the titles give you anxiety.
Speaker 1:I had a big epiphany this week when talking to my dad on the phone about this, because he was saying that he's like well, I read a lot of really bad articles and so I always try to send you guys the good ones so that you don't have to sift through articles. And I realize that is a big generational difference because I don't read news. I get everything on TikTok or Instagram unless it's like a major headline. If it's like a major headline that I need to fact check and that I need like a very reliable, safe source, I will do the research into like obtaining that from a news source.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the news is scary and that's why we read Greg's Reads of the Week. So first article headline show this chart to anyone who tells you college isn't worth it. I did not look at the chart.
Speaker 1:I don't even know that. I saw that one.
Speaker 2:It's recent.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, is that like today? I don't know, okay, I didn't get that one, or I didn't like look at it. But you have it but Right, I just mean, I didn't see it with my eyes, one to five. Zero out of five Okay.
Speaker 2:Zero anxiety Also did not give me anxiety.
Speaker 1:We both went to college, like we both had the privilege of going to college, so but I also am on a big causation and correlation are not the same. And I feel like that could definitely be that chart yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I was. I watched a TikTok today that was talking about how people for a long time it's been debunked now thought that red wine was healthy because people who drink a glass of red wine a day tended to live longer or whatever. But really the correlation was that most people that drink red wine were higher income and had better medical care, got you? Not, it had nothing to do with the red wine, sure Ah.
Speaker 2:I just looked at the article. Um, it's just that the wage gap is higher Pretty significantly for college educated bachelors degree versus high school diplomas.
Speaker 1:So but I don't think that that I don't know that that has to do with college education as much as we would like to say. Yeah, it tends to be just kind of this barrier that people arbitrarily set up in terms of like Well, I also think it has a lot to do with networking and connections, which people say you make through college, but I don't. I think college is an opportunity to do that, but I don't think it's the only way to do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think those are the tools that we don't give people. Yeah, hot, take Anyway.
Speaker 2:Next one $1.1 trillion spent on green energy, matching the spend on fossil fuels for the first time in history. That's from the good news hub.
Speaker 1:So Mm Like a two out of five.
Speaker 2:Two out of five.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was going to go one out of five like it didn't cause me any, but now I'm realizing that that still means we spend a lot on the other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it gives me a little bit like it's hopeful, it's good news, but it's also just like this oh yeah, we have to fix the, the environment, the environment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I.
Speaker 1:I never feel like I'm doing enough in that regard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean it's tough to directly impact as like a single individual.
Speaker 1:Right, but also it's the entire world's made up of single individuals. So if we come together and, as individuals, do something anyway, and corporations are people, so Right, okay.
Speaker 2:Also as people. And our next one is In our last article, architects are turning the cannabis based hemp creep that could revolutionize the way we build our homes.
Speaker 1:Zero out of five, but I am fascinated yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're a big hemp user now, so that's your, your latest passion project.
Speaker 1:Passion project? No, not really. Do you feel like that's just all I'm talking about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just can't stop talking about CBD gummies and how they help you sleep. Should we run another free ad? No, I feel like.
Speaker 1:I've barely talked about it, no. And I feel like you are just like fixated on it.
Speaker 2:I like. I like making an innovative thing. That's not real.
Speaker 1:Is it because you've never seen me like take something consistently?
Speaker 2:That's true, yeah.
Speaker 1:That you're just like you must, be obsessed with this.
Speaker 2:I think that's a testament to making medication into gummies and how effective that is for you. Yeah, personally.
Speaker 1:Personally.
Speaker 2:For sure, Like if you needed to take a medication daily. I should really just find a way to make any pill into fruit snacks.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I need? That's what I was just thinking.
Speaker 2:It's like the fruit snackitizer.
Speaker 1:I I literally just need like a literal, like Welch's fruit snacks, but it has all the different kinds of vitamins I needed it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and.
Speaker 1:I just wake up and I eat that with my bottle of water.
Speaker 2:It's a whole package.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's yeah, you're thinking of like care, of where they send you like six vitamins, but it's only gummies. It's like 12 gummies in a bag.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I do think there's a risk with kids. That's probably why I'm highly gummy packaged vitamin slash medication delivery system. But it would work, it would work.
Speaker 1:It would work really well for me. I don't mind taking, like I can swallow a pill, fine, sure, but I'm just a lot less likely to do it.
Speaker 2:But if we want you to remember fruit, fruit snack.
Speaker 1:it for sure yeah.
Speaker 2:If anyone has a way to fruit snack medications, let me know.
Speaker 1:I'm like a dog that you have to hide it in peanut butter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, we could do that too, but I feel like you're going to bite it and I feel like it's going to be really gross.
Speaker 1:That's funny Okay.
Speaker 3:So we had.
Speaker 2:What was interesting because we had an email this week and I think it was a little bit older, but they were asking about college and they were just starting college and wanted to know if we had any tips, tricks or stories from our college days. And, seeing as I'm sneaking up on a decade since I graduated college, I figured we would hit some.
Speaker 1:Some college highlights yeah.
Speaker 2:Some war stories from college.
Speaker 1:Do you want to start?
Speaker 2:Sure, Sure, Um. I've touched on it before, but uh, high school built a lot of bad study habits for me, so this is going to fall more into the advice column than necessarily a story, because the story is in high school I didn't do a lot outside of the in class work and made it through high school just fine college. That wasn't such a good idea, and so it took me two or three semesters to land on academic probation and since I was on academic scholarship, it was like, oh okay, Well, if you do this again, then you're not going to have a scholarship anymore, so maybe you need to figure out how to actually pass your class as well. So, uh, turns out, if you do the homework and uh read the textbook, when they tell you to read the textbook and study, your performances drastically improved. Crazy, as opposed to just going to class. May or may not pay attention. Go home, see if you can pass Tests and homework, and you can't.
Speaker 2:So anyway, recommend studying, building some study habits, building routines around that. If that's not your uh, something you do already. Some people were great about it already. They did well. Also, I decided to skip a couple of classes that I could have just retaken in college and gotten like good grades in fairly easily. So unless it's going to cut like years off of your, your college, um sometimes it's good to retake those classes to practice.
Speaker 1:the especially like the difference at the college level yeah.
Speaker 2:It's. It's not a bad thing to get an easier A or two if you have a background in that class, especially since, like I, was on academic scholarship so I could take the hours like it wasn't a cost difference to me. I had I could take over many hours a semester. I could take over many hours a semester and so should have not skipped several classes. That I did because taking the level two class at college was significantly harder than taking well, not that the level two was even available in high school, but it would have been good to start with one I started in French five.
Speaker 1:uh, when I came into college and that was my first semester and that was like my biggest mistake of my entire life, I remember you crying in the hallway of the business building. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because you had to go to French next.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even my teacher said that it would have been easier if I would have started at French six or I think it was six, because the whatever level five class it was, that was the one they used to kind of weed out people who wanted to major or minor in French Moving up, and so it was just like. It was a very demanding class and language was always really hard for me. But I had taken French for uh six years. Six years Okay.
Speaker 2:Since I was 12. Yeah, you could. You were like pretty decent at French.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm not. Do not speak to me in French now.
Speaker 2:I got nothing.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 1:But that's not true. I can say I don't know, I don't speak French, that's all. I got anymore.
Speaker 2:It sounded good when you were speaking French back in the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, yeah Anyway, not important. So I then started and that kicked my ever loving behind. Yeah, I was just trying to get my language like credit over with and I could have started in like French like one. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could have. Just you could have smashed like the first four classes in French, I think. I thought.
Speaker 1:Maybe that because I think I only needed the one class above this one to get a French minor or something like that.
Speaker 2:I don't remember what it was you could have gotten.
Speaker 1:I think you could have gotten a minor in French, with just like one or two classes there was and I'm probably saying this wrong, but it was something along those lines, and so but I took that one and it I barely passed.
Speaker 2:You passed because I think that the teacher felt so bad for me.
Speaker 1:I was coming to her office hours. Office hours.
Speaker 2:I mean I was doing everything I could and I just you were doing the exact opposite of what I was doing in my classes, which was just silently getting Cs, Ds and Fs.
Speaker 1:Even though I'd had a hard time in French, like all the years that I took it, I had put in so many years to it, I was like, just languages do not come naturally to me. It's very hard for me. Yeah, it always has been. I like I've really desperately wanted to be bilingual and I have done a lot of like since I was a kid. I was because, well, and one of my very best friends had the privilege of, from the time she was very little, being exposed to Spanish and then in sixth, seventh, eighth grade she went to Spanish summer camp where they only spoke Spanish. So she was fluent in Spanish when we were in middle school and that friend is now fluent in, or has been, whether fluent now or has been fluent In the time I've known her. She's been fluent in Spanish, english, swahili, arabic. That might be it, I feel like I'm missing one.
Speaker 1:But anyway, a lot of languages and I always thought that was so. I admired that so much. And guys, I'm smart, but I'm not that smart.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I remember you crying about French.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was the worst class experience I ever had and I was not a good student, but I worked really hard in that class and I got a C.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it was my only C all of college.
Speaker 2:That's funny.
Speaker 1:The only one. I had A's and B's the rest of college, but I did have that one C on my report card.
Speaker 2:I feel like you didn't love your art classes either.
Speaker 1:I didn't like my art professor, because my art professor it was somebody, because I was going to double major. Man, you're really taking me back. I was going to double major and Art and business. Art and business and I was in a figure drawing class my first year and the professor was an artist Like you know how you think of that like very art personality.
Speaker 1:And she really connected really well with a lot of the students in the class, but obviously like was not interested in me, didn't dislike, like was very neutral, it wasn't like a negative. Yeah, just like I could see that she really loved other students in her class and she like didn't give me the time of day, which was fine. Fine, so that automatically like I'm such a like affirmation and I need people to like me, so that already put me on edge.
Speaker 1:And then I remember to this day, I'll never forget it. We were in the class and she was talking about how her faith journey impacted this piece that she was talking to us about, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I asked the question. I said, well, can you tell us, like, what is your faith journey, like, why, in this piece? And she Went absolutely boiling and screamed at me in front of everybody in the class saying that was an incredibly inappropriate question. You never asked people that, you never this, you never that. Like I was Mordified that's, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:She brought it up no, a hundred percent, and I, like I don't think I've ever told this story to anybody, because I walked out of that class and I was so mortified I have never talked about it again.
Speaker 2:I do remember you just kind of dropped art at one point.
Speaker 1:I didn't well, it made me cry. I left and I like cried because I was so embarrassed and I was so, and like I wasn't even saying, like I was just like what I Wanted to know more about, like what anyway, like you asked a follow-up question to her Description. I'll never forget it. And then she was really not into me. After I asked that she was really not into me the rest of the semester and then I ended up dropping art not because there were other classes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I liked in the art program, but I realized that everything was a lot more medium art than it was going to be anything Photography-wise, and I didn't feel like the photography program was gonna provide very much benefit to me in what I was wanting to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you always, I think you get classified as a creative a lot and that's really not your forte.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not. I would love to be a creative. I really admire creatives and I really love Listening to them talk and how passionate they are about their mediums and about, like, the Representation that their work has and all that kind of stuff. Like I really do, I admire it, I love it. It's not me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're a people person.
Speaker 1:I'm so.
Speaker 2:You've worked in creative fields, but you're much more interested in talking with people, working with people and Business yeah, which is why you get your business degree and now your art degree.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wasn't a good business student either. I'm gonna tell you guys right now, just college in general, I was not a good student. I wasn't like, I was a yeah. I went to class and I was respectful and nice, but I just didn't. I Don't know. I think my dad didn't go to college and while education and attending and getting to know people was very much prioritized and taught to me like to be important to me, grades were never Like it didn't matter if I got an A or a C ever to you or.
Speaker 2:To to anybody in my.
Speaker 1:I don't remember it. Well, granted, let me rephrase that I got almost all A's in high school. Sure and so it probably didn't. I didn't think of it as mattering. I didn't get all A's because I was being told I needed to have. I'd not get straight A's. I was like a 70% a, 30% B student and I I Don't know. It was just never that like valued it was more like. Well, it wasn't even try your best. I wasn't even taught to like work my hardest. I.
Speaker 2:Just get the get it done. No.
Speaker 1:Literally. I think that's what I was taught.
Speaker 2:I didn't get out 100% and Anyway.
Speaker 1:So then when I got to college, I was not too stressed about I Knew that I wanted to be self-employed, I knew that I wanted to probably go the direction of working for myself in some capacity, and so I was like, well, I don't care what my GPA and my mom dropped out. Like my dad didn't go to college and my mom made it through, I think, three semesters and she had like a I Don't know, it was bad, like a point nine. I was gonna say one yeah, one point two like something crazy.
Speaker 2:You know neighborhood of the ones.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and she ended up going back to school when I was a small kiddo and ended up with her finalized GPA being over 3.0 when she graduated, which was huge, that she pulled it up from there. Yeah, graduated from Iowa, which is where she had dropped out of and anyway. So I just don't think that it was. I Think that that's kind of a theme in my life is my parents were always very open that they didn't necessarily Take the most traditional route and that things work out Like they were both married prior to being married to each other. Dad didn't go to college, mom dropped out of college. Like it was very apparent to me from a very young age that there are a lot of options and and not Going down the traditional path does not count you out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah and I think that ended up putting a lot less pressure on college for me. I.
Speaker 2:Never talked to my parents about many thing.
Speaker 1:I Put all of the pressure on myself, by myself for the most part, and, and you had to have learned that somewhere, though you don't just internalize like I'm not saying yeah, like I think that that's a bit.
Speaker 2:Sure, I think I mean again, again, my, my neurodiversity lends itself to rigidity and structure, and so I saw a rigidity and structure in the college process and was like, cool, I'll do that. And then I also have Pretty severe demand avoidance. So I was like, well, you can't make me do this, but I'm gonna try to do it my way. And then I almost failed. But then I was like I can't ask for help. The worst thing I could do is ask for help. So I'm gonna have to get better at school and.
Speaker 3:I did yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I don't know. I just I wasn't. Yeah, I think I was just competitive. I don't know that I loved school or thought I had to do it for somebody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm competitive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not in school.
Speaker 1:No well, I was never gonna win. Like that's the thing for me is, I'm not competitive. Where I know I can't compete, got it. Do you know what I mean? That's fair. Like I Didn't hold enough interest in it to ever Like be the best yeah, yeah, you are.
Speaker 2:You've always been good about knowing what Was up your alley, like what you were interested and the things that you weren't. You were like Science. No, thank you. I'm like that's great, somebody else can be really good at that, yeah you're gonna look so good at science compared to me because I'm not gonna do it at all.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty much it's worked out. I don't know for sure. Okay, when you said college stories, though, prior to getting on this episode, what I thought of in the story, I wanted to tell and this really doesn't have anything to do with college education wise. Yeah, but it's kind of a fun little embarrassing story that maybe if If you're not in college or you're way out of college, you'll just think it's funny, and if you're going into college, maybe it'll come for you to know that like things work out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you can embarrass yourself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something to know about me. So I didn't start my period until Mother's Day of my senior year of high school, so I was 17 years old. I had been a competitive athlete, yep, and so I Don't know if that's why. Anyway, it's crazy, but I was old, and so by the time I was going to college, I'd only had like I don't know three or four periods ever, and so during I went through sorority recruitment at the University of Arkansas, and we had to. They provided t-shirts for us and then you like, wear whatever you want on bottom.
Speaker 2:And this is late summer in Arkansas, which is hot.
Speaker 1:So everybody's in shorts and stuff and I had this cute pair of white denim shorts that I was wearing with my outfit.
Speaker 1:You can see the foreshadowing and we're not allowed to go back to our dorm. There are all these rules and restrictions around recruitment and like where you can go and who you can talk to and all this stuff, and I don't really remember the nitty-gritty of that. But I first house that I went to bled, all the like started my period, bled through my shorts like blood everywhere, and I had to go find like a random leader they call him Gamma Kies, like the group leaders and the girl walked me back to my dorm so I didn't have to be by myself and like help me find clothes, like an outfit that like bottom half that worked with my t-shirt for the rest of my parties and all this stuff and it was mortifying. Yeah, and then this is kind of funny, is so that girl that walked me back, that was the only interaction I had with her during recruitment, but she ended up you don't know what sorority organization they're in when they're a Gamma Kai, because the point is for them to be like neutral parties. And so after I rushed my sorority, I found out that she was an older member of the sorority that I went and her and I never like had a ton of interactions or anything but years down the road in like 2018. So what is that?
Speaker 1:Seven years later, I was at a wedding and she was a guest at the wedding and I was photographing it and we were on the dance floor and I'm taking pictures and I pulled her aside. I said do you remember that? And she was like yes, of course I remember. And I said isn't that hilarious? And she goes I don't know, I've never told anyone that that happened. And I started busting up laughing. I said what do you mean? You've never told anyone? Like that's funny, like why have you never told anybody that?
Speaker 1:and she's like I didn't know if you were embarrassed or not, so I have never told a soul that's really that happened and I was like oh well, you can go tell anybody you want, I'm okay, yeah it is a natural like thing you just. I prepared for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I said, but I mean you survived the rest of your college career yeah, it didn't stick by me yeah, even though you bled through your my white shorts, your white shorts, yeah when you were walking around trying to impress people and you're like, I feel like it's seven. I just turned 18 yeah you're supposed to be old enough to like no yeah, it's not an age, you expect somebody to be caught off guard no their menstrual cycle, but but, there you were, there she was. You were a rookie, you didn't know.
Speaker 1:I was a rookie.
Speaker 2:I still am a rookie yeah, I don't know I'm trying to think of. I think I just had to learn a lot of social skills in college you changed a lot in college, socially for sure yeah, that that delayed adolescence hit hard in college.
Speaker 2:Yeah, learn how to socialize with people a little bit better than I did, so I grew through it, but I don't know that I have any great acute stories. I'm sure I could ask a couple of my friends and they would have some. I don't know how appropriate stories, but definitely have some stories we have some 21 stories, but there yeah, yeah, most of.
Speaker 1:Matt has, I will. I won't lie like I really don't have that many good story like when our kids get older and they're like mom, tell us a story about when you were young and crazy. I don't have very. I don't have any yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't have anything good I never did like because I never broke rules. I never put myself in situations where I was not in control, I which I kind of like. I think there's a level of regret for me now. Granted, I think that if you're going to put yourself in situations where you feel out of control, you need to be with a group of people in which you feel safe yeah, and. I just don't feel like I had a entire group setting, that I felt that way, like I had individual relationships and friends.
Speaker 1:That I very much felt that way with but, but I kind of wish that I would have like gone out, and you know.
Speaker 2:I think that's a little bit of my. My privilege is that again, six to white man, yeah, yeah yeah, your. Your risk for some things is significantly lower when you're just physically difficult to you know.
Speaker 1:Mover abductor yeah, hurt yeah yeah, I agree with that yeah, I've got some some stories do you have anything else that you want to tell today before we jump into voicemail? I don't know. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't think I have anything good specific wise, just the yeah, study hard kids, do your best all right, we got a couple voicemails today, so let's get into it all right.
Speaker 3:I wanted to share it. Like I am in California, I'm a military and I'm also new here and I know that you guys obviously do a great job of that, but wanted to know that I heard a note that like within the community that she really isn't alone and other people like listen to you guys and hear things that are in the same situation at times.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's really nice that's super sweet and I also, because you called to say this, thank you for calling in. I want to say, while we have a call like that, that my friend from growing up in college is an Air Force wife and she's stationed in Alaska and they have the wives of the armed forces Instagram account and they have a Facebook group and they have a website and blog where they have tons of resources and information and I think that it's a really good way to connect with people.
Speaker 1:So yeah if your armed forces anything or a family member that is worth looking into, and that is my friend, jen, and she's like done some really, really, really incredible things, yeah celebrity community wives of the arms forces that their Instagram page, and it's Kirsten and Jen and I.
Speaker 1:Actually, I photographed Kirsten's wedding because of meeting Jen and they're both wonderful and like they are so passionate about letting people know that they are not alone in creating community, so just a good resource hi Joe, I'm calling from Wollongong, australia, and I just had a couple of things I wanted to say.
Speaker 5:Firstly, I've been catching up on the last few episodes and I just wanted to say to the girls it's the new preschool teacher that I absolutely get it. I also am a teacher and in my first year of teaching, my husband worked evenings, and so I fully understand what she was saying. The best thing that we ever did was that we decided that Saturday mornings we would go for brunch every week. It was a non-negotiable and I just gave us that time to connect and all that sort of stuff and it just was so good. We still do it and I've been teaching for six years. The other thing was I just wanted to ask what is the thing that you guys grew up with that you thought was totally normal and then realized that it wasn't so? For example, my dad really likes knots and we had a rope tied to the front of the fridge and every time we wanted to get anything from the fridge we had to tie a knot.
Speaker 1:Thank you that's a practical skill it really is yeah, it's not normal at all, but life skills right there before we answer that question, I want to say I love you guys calling in and having input on things that people have previously said, and like the way that you guys are cultivating community for one another outside of just us talking that makes me really happy.
Speaker 1:It's great that people with the experience can answer some of these questions and not us all the time for sure, I'm trying to think do you have anything off the top that you thought was super normal?
Speaker 2:I don't know my family dynamic. I think there's a lot of things I thought were normal that are not. My family barely talks to each other, like we just kind of sit in silence together. Not that that's like unique, but I think other families talk to each other more yeah, so for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, and you had, I was gonna say that you having church in your home, yeah, yeah, that was normal right yeah, well, I knew pretty quickly that it wasn't not everybody was doing it yeah yeah, I did have a non, a non typical religious upbringing, for sure. I'm trying to think of what mine would be, can you? I'm having a hard time.
Speaker 2:I know that there are probably yeah of them, but I mean your mom yeah that's definitely not a.
Speaker 1:I guess that's true yeah, but I think I knew that wasn't yeah. I'm trying to think of things that I like, truly thought were normal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, looking for more trivia type, I thought having now.
Speaker 1:This was not part of my childhood, but I thought having a passport was normal yeah and I thought that my parents were completely shorting me by not getting me one or taking me anywhere yeah, yeah but I didn't have one. I didn't get a passport, cause in my mid-20s yeah, you got a passport when we were.
Speaker 2:I guess you got it for work, yeah, yep, you need to go to what else I?
Speaker 1:oh, I didn't know that it wasn't normal to have your siblings not live with you oh yeah, until I was older like I thought half siblings were, and I know half siblings are not like uncommon, but people had such a hard time grasping that my siblings didn't live in the same state as me yeah yeah, that's one. I kind of want to put a rope on our fridge now, though just learn some knots yeah, I mean it's not a bad idea.
Speaker 2:I feel like I could use the ability to tie more knots. Just, you know, it's good. It's good to be able to, you know, hitch a boat or, you know, secure something.
Speaker 1:For sure. I learned to tie knots as a kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, boat life yeah.
Speaker 1:I honestly you didn't get your period until you were 17,.
Speaker 2:So did that feel normal to you?
Speaker 1:No, it didn't, because I was a swimmer, so I was surrounded by girls talking about cycles Got it Because it very much impacted our sport, and so I was one of the I was the only one, I think. At that point I was like ready.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the majority of my immediate family being on the spectrum, a lot of things weren't typical. We weren't doing very neurotypical things in our domicile.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to like I know that there are things I'm gonna have to think on that. I might come back to that because that's a really, really good question that, if I thought I could answer. I would love to come back to it at some point. Okay, we've got one more.
Speaker 2:One more.
Speaker 4:Hey guys, I hope you can hear me well. I always say that people should record in a quiet place, but I was just listening to your podcast whilst walking along the seaside and I wanted to say hi and let you know that I love you guys and I really appreciate your honesty, your vulnerability and you probably got that I'm not English or American or whatever, but I'll let you guess that one. I really like your points of view and how you discuss with each other, even if you don't agree on certain things. I really adore the way you communicate, the way you parent your children and you know all those kind of things. I appreciate it and I really enjoy listening to you, even though I'm 24, I'm neither married nor have a job yet, because I haven't graduated.
Speaker 4:I'm studying veterinary medicine. My question is and I will send another one soon is that when you feel really overwhelmed and triggered by everything, like my feet hurt, my mascara doesn't look right and you know just everything's just what do you do other than meditation? Just try that. Too overwhelmed to do even that. So love you guys.
Speaker 1:I love that people from all over listen. It makes me really happy that so many people from different cultures and different places listen. Every time I'm blown away yes, when I'm really overwhelmed the number one thing that I do is turn off all electronics around me and I go outside.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like I feel like giving myself a brisk walk or like a fresh air or a like just kind of letting myself physically regulate and then come back in order to kind of hit the next. And if that's not de-escalating me enough, I call Jacey, who's my best friend. She gets a lot of phone calls Even if I'm not talking to her about what I'm struggling with. Talking to her and like that's very grounding for me. What about you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think in the same vein either taking it and doing something like outside that needs to be done, trying to channel some of that aggression into being productive, Even if you're doing it, you know, semi-violently go out and do some landscaping, which, yeah or exercise. I mean, exercise has always been a good one for me to try and take out frustration, just to get the body moving and engage my mind somewhere that's not whatever's immediately.
Speaker 1:I feel like a lot of times when I get overwhelmed, it's by like I'm like, oh, there's so little time and there's so much to do and it's never going to happen. And what, what, what do I do? What do I do? You know, I can kind of shut down that way, and so when I'm feeling that way, like removing myself from that in a way that's productive, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like any kind of physical tasks that's on my to-do list, like folding laundry, or if exercise is something that I'm wanting to get in that day, going on a walk so that something's checked off the list but I'm also not taking on like a stressful or an overly stimulating task.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're both angry doers, like when we're frustrated with each other we both have a habit of like if things have really devolved, it's like well. I'm going to go really angrily like clean the entire closet, like out of spite, somehow.
Speaker 1:I don't know how but I don't think it's unhealthy though.
Speaker 2:No, if anything, it's productive, and so at the end of it you're like still kind of pissed off. But look at this closet, look at what I did. I did that in spite of you.
Speaker 1:I hope that you never say that to me, because that would really hurt my feelings. I don't say, you know?
Speaker 2:it's just, it's the, it's the inner feeling.
Speaker 1:sometimes I'm not, I'm not saying that it's not okay to feel how you're feeling. I'm telling you, please never vocalize that to me because it will hurt my feelings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally fair, totally fair. It's something you do too, though, like I've seen you like clean the kitchen angrily, yeah.
Speaker 1:But. But now, Matt, if I'm cleaning or picking something up, oh, I do have a habit, I'm angry, which is something that I really don't like about it. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's. That's a little bit of black and white thinking for me, yeah.
Speaker 1:Last week Matt was kind of overwhelmed and had a lot going on and he was working on getting the upload, the podcast, uploaded, and so I went in and I cleaned the entire kitchen and he had had a drink on the countertop that he hadn't finished. So I took it to him and I like set it down. I was like here you go. And he like responded angrily to me and I was like, oh no, what's?
Speaker 2:like I'm going to be done in a second.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like wait, no, take your time, I already did all the things that you like needed to do. Like I got, I did it for you. And you were like, yeah, I know you're pissed about that, and blah, blah, blah blah. But I was like wait, wait, I was trying to be nice. And yeah, I thought you were going to be like, oh, thank you, I love you.
Speaker 2:And instead you were and that circles back beautifully to my whole internal uh, negative internal self talk that I've developed.
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